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XpertVision RADEON 8500 Video Card Review

May 30, 2002

The ATI RADEON 8500 based cards with 128 MBytes memory are widely available on the market, but today we turn to older models. There is also a great number old such cards. I mean the RADEON 8500LE. If you look through our 3Digest you will find 5 kinds of RADEON 8500 cards.

The cards actually differ only in frequencies. But there are some other factors which can be vital when you are choosing a card four your needs. In particular, a lot of manufacturers do not bundle the card with a second RAMDAC and the cards, thus, loses one more trump - normal dual-head support. You can display an image on two monitors, but this will be only the clone mode. Moreover, you can't change a resolution on the second monitor. It also concerns the TV-out.

But if it were only frequencies and a second RAMDAC... The manufacturers decided to save on their products and used memory different from what ATI recommended.

Till recently we came across such a solution only once - it was a card from Joytech. By the way, below you can look through a list of reviews of the latest RADEON 8500/7500 products published on our site.

Theoretical materials and reviews of video cards which concern functional properties of the ATI RADEON 8500/7500 GPU

The last card in the list has a design that deviates from the ATI's reference one. Today we will take a look at one more such card, this time from XpertVision.


The card has an AGP x2/x4 interface, 64 MBytes DDR SGRAM located in 4 chips on the front side of the PCB.

XpertVision RADEON 8500
XpertVision RADEON 8500
The card comes with Samsung memory modules of 4ns access time which corresponds to 250 (500) MHz. The memory works at 240 (480) MHz. The GPU runs at 250 MHz which is the rated frequency for the RADEON 8500LE.

Comparison with the reference design, front view
XpertVision RADEON 8500 Reference card ATI RADEON 8500LE

Comparison with the reference design, back view
XpertVision RADEON 8500 Reference card ATI RADEON 8500LE

The card has the 's own design. The dimensions of the card are smaller, the card uses inexpensive DDR SGRAM memory from Samsung (such memory usually comes on GeForce4 MX440 cards).

There is no a second RAMDAC. However, there is space for it to the upper left of the chip on the front side. That is why I'm sure that there are the same cards on the market with the second RAMDAC installed. On the whole, the design is simplified considerably.

The card is bundled with an ordinary cooler which is quite enough as the chip doesn't heat up considerably.

The heatsink is easy to take off (it is attached with clips), and here is the heart of the card:

It is produced at the end of 2001, A13 revision.

The card has DVI and d-Sub connectors and a TV-out. The latter is supported by the RAGE THEATER.

Quality of operation of the Dual Head / TV-out was estimated many times (see the list above). But with the lacking second RAMDAC these capabilities become crippled.

The set of accessories is simple:

XpertVision RADEON 8500
CD with drivers and utilities, DVI-to-VGA adapter, S-Video extender. An S-Video-to-RCA adapter is lacking.

The card comes in the OEM package.


XpertVision RADEON 8500 250/480 -> 300/510 MHz

The card achieved really good results, though the memory from Samsung in the old package can work only a tad faster.


  • in course of overclocking you must provide additional cooling, in particular, for the card (first of all, for its memory):

  • overclocking depends on a certain sample, and you shouldn't generalize the results of one card to all video cards of this mark or series. The overclocking results are not the obligatory characteristics of the respective video card.

Test system and drivers


  • Pentium 4 2200 MHz based computer:
    • Intel Pentium 4 2200 (L2=512K);
    • ASUS P4T-E (i850) mainboard;
    • 512 MBytes RDRAM PC800;
    • Quantum FB AS HDD, 20 GBytes;
    • Windows XP.

The test system was coupled with ViewSonic P810 (21") and ViewSonic P817 (21") monitors.

In the tests we used ATI's drivers of v6.058. VSync was off, S3TC was off.

For the comparative analyses we used the following cards:

  • Leadtek WinFast A250LE (NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200, 250/250 (500) MHz, 64 MBytes, driver 28.32);
  • ABIT Siluro GF3 Ti500 (NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 500, 240/250 (500) MHz, 64 MBytes, driver 28.32);
  • Chaintech G320 (NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200, 175/200 (400) MHz, 64 MBytes, driver 28.32);
  • ATI RADEON 8500 (ATI RADEON 8500, 275/275 (550) MHz, 64 MBytes);
  • Manli RADEON 8500LE (ATI RADEON 8500LE, 250/250 (500) MHz, 648 MBytes).

Test results

I expected 2D quality to be quite bad, but it isn't so. However, the images are not so sharp in 1600x1200@85 Hz as with the RADEON 8500 produced by ATI. Good quality can be achieved only at 75 Hz in this resolution. Or in 1280x1024 at 85 Hz. Remember that this parameter much depends on a certain sample and on how the card gets along with a monitor.

For estimation of 3D quality we used:

  • Return to Castle Wolfenstein (MultiPlayer) (id Software/Activision) - OpenGL, multitexturing, Checkpoint-demo, test settings - maximum, S3TC OFF, the configurations can be downloaded from here;
  • 3DMark2001 SE (MadOnion) - a synthetic test which demonstrates operation of a card in DirectX 8.1;
  • Comanche4 Benchmark Demo (NovaLogic) - DirectX 8.1, multitexturing, test settings - maximum, S3TC OFF.

The tests were carried out in a 32-bit color mode.

Return to Castle Wolfenstein

Despite the HyperZ-2 technology of the RADEON 8500, this card depends much on the memory. The XpertVision RADEON 8500LE overclocked up to 300 MHz (chip) failed to catch up with the card working at 275/550 MHz. Just because its memory worked at 510 MHz.

Comanche4 Benchmark Demo

This test is very tough for the RADEON 8500, and first of all in 1600x1200. The test depends mainly on the GPU than on the video memory. However, the central processor is even more important here.

3D Mark2001 SE

Game1 Low Details

As the resolution increases the advantage of the overclocked XpertVision over the same card but working at the rated speed weakens.

Game2 Low Details

This test has the similar results.

Game3 Low Details

This test is very GPU intensive, that is why the overclocked XpertVision scores better results. On the whole, the performance difference between all cards is smaller.


In this test the ATI cards outscore NVIDIA models for several months already. And only in 1600x1200 the RADEON 8500LE loses.


On the one hand, this RADEON 8500LE based card is very similar to its siblings (it's interesting that some time ago we meant only ATI by the word RADEON, and now the market offers a great range of RADEON 8500LE based cards of various calibers.

But it has a unique design. Which brings both a lower price and some disadvantages. First of all, it is poorer 2D quality, though the difference is inconsiderable. Lack of the second RAMDAC is not a drawback of the video card, but of the given sample (because the space for it is provided). Earlier we also saw some cards based on the ATI's reference design which didn't have a second RAMDAC.

The main advantage of this card is a low price. It costs some $150. But taking into account that the latest GeForce4 Ti 4200 64 MBytes cards are already available at $160-180, the RADEON 8500LE may lose its fans very soon if the manufacturers do not reduce prices. I mean normal RADEON 8500LE cards running at 250/500 MHz.

The complete characteristics of video cards of this and other classes can be found in our 3Digest.


  • Excellent performance in 3D games for a mainstream card;
  • Relatively low price;
  • TV-out.


  • Worse 2D quality as compared with the original ATI's card;
  • Lack of the second RAMDAC of the XpertVision RADEON 8500LE;
  • No S-Video-to-RCA adapter.

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