Ricoh MP5120A and HP dvd100i
CD-RW drives are widely used as a storage means, but some may feel that standard 700 MBytes are not enough any more. There are magnetooptical devices, however they are not so efficient in recording and so convenient in use as CD-RW drives. Besides, they are not so popular that you can feel free carrying such discs from one place to another. The DVD technology provides much more space on a disc and quite easy to use; and such drives are quite speedy and inexpensive. Today an average DVD drive is just a little more dearer than the most expensive CD-ROM devices. Besides, more and more software and game developers write their programs on DVD discs. However, there is one problem on the way of its popularization: lack of a single standard. At present there are three incompatible formats of recording and storage of data on DVD discs: DVD-RAM, DVD-RW and DVD+RW. DVD-RAM is offered by Matsushita, and discs recorded in this format can't be read on a DVD-ROM drive. The DVD-RW developed by Pioneer is the most popular recording standard. DVD-R and DVD-RW are not expensive. Besides, for production of DVD-R media it is enough to modernize a CD-R production line. The DVD-R and DVD-RW formats are approved by the DVD Forum. The DVD+RW is the youngest format which lacks for many drawbacks of the DVD-RW but it's still not widespread among disc makers. Besides, DVD+R discs were announced just a little ago and it's hard to forecast their prices and availability for the near future. The best advantage of DVD+R/RW discs is that they are compatible with most of consumer DVD players and DVD-ROM drives. (According to IDC, there are 35 million such devices). Besides, DVD+RW suits excellently both storage of data and recording of video which is very important for bringing together PCs and home equipment. The DVD+RW Alliance consists of companies (HP, MCC/Verbatim, Ricoh, Philips, Sony, Thomson Multimedia, and Yamaha. Promised support from Ahead, BHA, Dazzle Digital Video Products, DELL Computers, Funai, GEAR Software, LG Electronics, MedioStream Inc., MGI, NEC, NewTech Infosystems Inc., Pinnacle Systems, Quantized Systems, Ravisent Technologies Inc., Roxio Inc., Software Architects Inc., Sonic Solutions, Spruce Technologies Inc., Toolex International N.V., Ulead Systems Inc., Veritas Software Corporation, VITEC Multimedia, Inc., and Zapex Technologies Inc.) which are leaders on the CD-R/CD-RW market, they have a great experience and know well needs of consumers in the sphere of recordable and rewritable digital media. Basic technical parameters of the DVD+RW:
Test resultsFor comparison in reading operations we used the TEAC 540ECD-ROM and ASUSTeK E616 DVD-ROM drives. CDWinBench 99 CD-ROM Transfer RateThe DVD+RW have average results in the data rate tests. For reading CD-ROM media it's better to use a CD drive. A solid breakthrough of the DVD-ROM ASUS in the external data transfer speed comes from the UltraDMA 100 support (ATA100). CPU utilization in the CD-ROM Transfer Rate test: Despite the ATA100 support the ASUS has the biggest CPU utilization in data transfer. The DVD+RW devices have a moderate CPU load comparable to the TEAC CD-540E. CDWinBench 99 CD-ROM Access TimeA random access speed is similar for all drives, except the losing HP model. CDWinBench 99 CPU UtilizationThe overall CPU utilization of the E616 is minimal in data transfer. The DVD+RW drives showed similar results. CD recording timeFor comparison we chose two popular 12x models - TEAC CD-W512 and NEC NR-7700. Recording of the Sony CDQ-74N1 CD-R (cyanine, 16x rated speed), 12x recording speed
The Ricoh MP5120A outscores the other by almost a minute in CD-R recording. The HP dvd100i outdoes the W512EB and the NR-7700. Recording of the Mirex CD-R (phthalocyanine, 12x rated
speed),
|
CD-RW/DVD+RW drive | Time (min.) |
TEAC CD-W512EB | 7.38 |
NEC NR-7700 | 7.46 |
HP dvd100i | 7.26 |
Ricoh MP5120A | 7.08 |
Recording of a phthalocyanine CD-R is not so beneficial as compared with cyanine discs. Nevertheless, the latest DVD+RW devices win half a minute from their predecessors.
CD-RW/DVD+RW drive | Time (min.) |
TEAC CD-W512EB | 20.52 |
NEC NR-7700 | 20.35 |
HP dvd100i | 20.12 |
Ricoh MP5120A | 19.09 |
The Ricoh has the best results in recording CD-R discs of any types. The TEAC CD-W512EB wrote the noname discs almost two minutes longer.
For performance comparison in speed of recording of DVD+RW discs we used the Nero Burning ROM program and a disc image consisting of 7 images of test 4.5 GBytes CD-Rs.
DVD+RW drive | Time (min.) |
HP dvd100i | 22.28 |
Ricoh MP5120A | 22.16 |
Taking into account that modern recorders write 650 MBytes discs at 5 minutes on average, 22 minutes for 4.5 GBytes is quite a good result.
DVD+RW drive | Time (min.) |
HP dvd100i | 24.56 |
Ricoh MP5120A | 24.42 |
DVD+RW drive | Time (min.) |
HP dvd100i | 13.08 |
Ricoh MP5120A | 12.14 |
The Ricoh is not much faster than the HP drive.
DVD+RW drive | Quick | Full |
HP dvd100i | 1.12 | 11.54 |
Ricoh MP5120A | 1.08 | 11.49 |
Well, it's quite convenient to start working with a 4.7 GBytes after just a minute of formatting.
DVD+RW drive | Time (min.) |
HP dvd100i | 18.28 |
Ricoh MP5120A | 18.06 |
DVD+RW drive | Time (min.) |
HP dvd100i | 7.16 |
Ricoh MP5120A | 7.32 |
Undoubtedly, if you replace your CD-RW drive for a DVD+RW one you won't be disappointed in its speed of rewriting.
DVD+RW drive | Time (min.) |
HP dvd100i | 20.42 |
Ricoh MP5120A | 20.38 |
CD-R disc, recording speed | Mirex, 12x | Sony
CDQ-74N1, 12x |
"noname", 4x |
HP dvd100i | 2-6 | 35-43 | 410-500 |
Ricoh MP5120A | 3-6 | 32-45 | 400-490 |
(for these tests we used a device described in the fifth part of our review)
Here are the results obtained on the CDCATS SA3 test station provided by The Urals Electronic Plant.
Both DVD recorders have high results in quality of disc recording which is a compensation for their not high speeds of CD-R recording.
The comparable ASUSTeK E616 DVD-ROM drive was used in the Nero CDSpeed with discs recorded on the Plextor 124Tsi CD-RW drive.
Graph of reading of the TDK Sony CDQ-74N1 CD-R (12x writing speed)
CD-RW drive | Graph of reading |
Ricoh MP5120A | |
HP dvd100i | |
ASUSTeK
DVD-ROM E616 |
Graph of reading of the Mirex CD-R (12x writing speed)
CD-RW drive | Graph of reading |
Ricoh MP5120A | |
HP dvd100i | |
ASUSTeK
DVD-ROM E616 |
Graph of reading of the "noname" CD-R (4x writing speed)
CD-RW drive | Graph of reading |
Ricoh MP5120A | |
HP dvd100i | |
ASUSTeK
DVD-ROM E616 |
Both drives read all types of media quite confidently.
Graph of reading of the Rostok Media 780 MBytes CD-R (90 min)
Ricoh MP5120A |
HP dvd100i |
Both HP and Ricoh read 90min. discs without any problems.
Graph of reading of the one-side 4 GBytes DVD-ROM (video)
DVD+RW drive | Graph of reading |
Ricoh MP5120A | |
HP dvd100i | |
ASUSTeK
DVD-ROM E616 |
Graph of reading of the double-side 9 GBytes DVD-ROM (video record of the Scorpions' "Moment of Glory" concert)
DVD+RW drive | Graph of reading |
Ricoh MP5120A | |
HP dvd100i | |
ASUSTeK
DVD-ROM E616 |
Graph of reading of the recorded test 4.5 GBytes DVD+RW
DVD+RW drive | Graph of reading |
Ricoh MP5120A | |
HP dvd100i | |
ASUSTeK
DVD-ROM E616 |
Only HP and ASUS were able to finish the tests well. The Ricoh had a lot of different problems, it stumbled and refused to proceed. I'm inclined to think that its firmware version has some real flaws.
Ricoh
MP5120A |
HP dvd100i | ASUSTeK
DVD E616 |
|
Average | 23.84x | 23.77x | 35.87x |
Random Seek | 108 ms | 117 ms | 88 ms |
SpinUp Time | 1.31 sec | 1.38 sec | 3.42sec |
SpinDown Time | 2.81 sec | 2.68 sec | 6.81 sec |
Disc Eject Time | 2.09 sec | 2.21 sec | 1.80 sec |
Disc Load Time | 6.71 sec | 6.73 sec | 1.34 sec |
Disc Recognition Time | 0.03 sec | 0.06 sec | 8.87 sec |
Ricoh
MP5120A |
HP dvd100i | ASUSTeK
DVD E616 |
|
Average | 23.87x | 23.94x | 35.83x |
Random Seek | 104 ms | 115 ms | 88 ms |
SpinUp Time | 1.30 sec | 1.41 sec | 3.44 sec |
SpinDown Time | 2.81 sec | 2.66 sec | 6.78 sec |
Disc Eject Time | 2.10 sec | 2.19 sec | 1.82 sec |
Disc Load Time | 6.73 sec | 6.84 sec | 1.34 sec |
Disc Recognition Time | 0.03 sec | 0.05 sec | 8.64 sec |
Ricoh
MP5120A |
HP dvd100i | ASUSTeK
DVD E616 |
|
Average | 24.57x | 23.91x | 37.57x |
Random Seek | 111 ms | 116 ms | 89 ms |
SpinUp Time | 1.29 sec | 1.42 sec | 3.45 sec |
SpinDown Time | 2.85 sec | 2.65 sec | 6.81 sec |
Disc Eject Time | 2.09 sec | 2.26 sec | 1.82 sec |
Disc Load Time | 6.69 sec | 6.81 sec | 1.34 sec |
Disc Recognition Time | 0.02 sec | 0.06 sec | 10.66 sec |
The Ricoh MP5120A and HP dvd100i showed good results for 32x CD-ROM drives, but the only disadvantage is their access time: 110-115 ms is not acceptable today.
Ricoh
MP5120A |
HP dvd100i | ASUSTeK
DVD E616 |
|
Average | n/a | 4.77x | 5.72x |
Random Seek | n/a | 149 ms | 141 ms |
CPU usage
(MAX Speed) |
n/a | 19% | 34% |
Ricoh
MP5120A |
HP dvd100i | ASUSTeK
DVD E616 |
|
Average | n/a | 5.52x | 6.03x |
Random Seek | n/a | 162 ms | 156 ms |
CPU usage
(MAX Speed) |
n/a | 18% | 32% |
Ricoh
MP5120A |
HP dvd100i | ASUSTeK
DVD E616 |
|
Average | n/a | 4.82x | 6.12x |
Random Seek | n/a | 144 ms | 140 ms |
CPU usage
(MAX Speed) |
n/a | 21% | 35% |
A speed of reading of DVD discs is higher for the ASUS DVD-ROM drive, but not much. But its CPU load is almost twice higher than that of the dvd100i.
CD-RW UDF (4x) | CD-RW UDF (10x) | CD-RW ISO (4x) | |
Ricoh MP5120A | 16.79x | 16.67x | 20.31x |
HP dvd100i | 17.02x | 17.12x | 20.08x |
ASUSTeK DVD E616 | 30.48x | 30.42x | 35.15x |
TEAC CD-W524E | 28.64x | 28.88x | 30.78x |
Yamaha CRW3200E | 29.05x | 29.04x | 30.83x |
The DVD+RW recorders read this type of media not too bad for CD-ROM drives. But if you often read rewritten discs you should take an additional high-speed DVD-ROM or CD-ROM/RW drive.
In this test we used two models of DVD players we were able to fetch. They were to read the DVD+RW discs with the recorded video movie. The DVD-ROM drives were also to recognize data recorded on the DVD+RW disc.
DVD-ROM drive | Reading of DVD+RW |
ASUSTeK E616 | Yes |
NEC DV-5800 | Yes |
Sony DDU1621 | Yes |
Pioneer DVD-500M | Yes |
DVD-Player | Reading of DVD+RW |
Marantz DV-17 | No |
Sony DVP-NS900V | Yes |
The DVD-ROM drives read the DVD+RW discs excellently, while the DVD players have some problems. It is interesting that the Sony's DVD DVP-NS700V and DVP-NS900V players support reading of DVD-R and DVD+RW media, and their follower - S-9000ES is able to read only DVD+RW. Why? It's no secret that Sony has already announced its DVD+RW drive which is able to record both DVD-R and DVD+RW media. By the way, it's not very difficult to provide support for recording of discs of the competing standards. Marketing: here is the major problem.
Ricoh MP5120A |
HP dvd100i |
Ricoh MP5120A |
HP dvd100i |
Ricoh MP5120A |
HP dvd100i |
Both drives read excellently all types of data.
For comparison of quality and speed we are showing data also for TEAC CD-W524E and Yamaha CRW3200E-VK CD-RW drives as they are the most popular for today and have the highest results in sampling of audio data.
Ricoh MP5120A
Piano Favorites | Acoustic Planet vol.2 | Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits" | |
Average extraction speed | 16.3x | 12.2x | 22.5x |
Total errors | 8.12% | 14.86% | 0.00% |
HP dvd100i
Piano Favorites | Acoustic Planet vol.2 | Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits" | |
Average extraction speed | 15.8x | 13.6x | 20.4x |
Total errors | 7.37% | 15.12% | 0.00% |
ASUSTeK DVD E616
Piano Favorites | Acoustic Planet vol.2 | Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits" | |
Average extraction speed | 18.8x | 11.2x | 23.6x |
Total errors | 1.28% | 6.34% | 0.00% |
TEAC CD-W524E
Piano Favorites | Acoustic Planet vol.2 | Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits" | |
Average extraction speed | 27.8x | 9.7x | 29.0x |
Total errors | 1.12% | 0.00% | 0.00% |
Yamaha CRW3200E-VK
Piano Favorites | Acoustic Planet vol.2 | Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits" | |
Average extraction speed | 20.5x | 14.0x | 28.9x |
Total errors | 0.00% | 0.01% | 0.00% |
The DVD drives still yield to modern CD-ROM/RW drives both in speed of audio data extraction and in quality of realization of this function.
Support of backoff and processing of data on C2 errors
Ricoh
MP5120A |
HP dvd100i | ASUSTeK
DVD E616 |
TEAC
CD-W524E |
Yamaha CRW3200E-VK | |
C2 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
Piano Favorites | Acoustic Planet vol.2 | Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits" | |
Ricoh MP5120A | 10.8x | 9.8x | 23.2x |
HP dvd100i | 10.6x | 10.0x | 23.7x |
ASUSTeK DVD E616 | 6.8x | 7.4x | 23.6x |
TEAC W524E | 11.1x | 9.0x | 11.4x |
Yamaha
CRW3200E-VK |
13.6x | 12.1x | 12.2x |
Piano Favorites | Acoustic Planet vol.2 | Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits" | |
Ricoh MP5120A | 0.7x | 2.0x | 6.7x |
HP dvd100i | 0.5x | 2.1x | 6.7x |
ASUSTeK DVD E616 | 1.6x | 1.5x | 7.0x |
TEAC W524E | 0.8x | 1.6x | 2.8x |
Yamaha
CRW3200E-VK |
4.7x | 5.1x | 8.4x |
The difference between the drives is not considerable. Nevertheless, sometimes a high-quality CD-RW drive is preferable for copying of audio data where the maximum closeness to the original is required.
CD-RW drive | Ricoh MP5120A | HP dvd100i | ASUSTeK DVD E616 |
Offset | 504 bytes
(126 samples) |
504 bytes
(126 samples) |
2256 bytes
(564 samples) |
Sequential Read Test | Average Speed: 23.49X
Data Errors: 0 Sync Errors: 0 |
Average Speed: 23.54X
Data Errors: 0 Sync Errors: 0 |
Average Speed: 28.47X
Data Errors: 0 Sync Errors: 0 |
Harmonica Read Test | Average Access Time: 184 ms
Data Errors: 0 Sync Errors: 0 Total Data Errors: 928
|
Average Access Time: 209 ms
Data Errors: 0 Sync Errors: 0 Total Data Errors: 0
|
Average Access Time: 110 ms
Data Errors: 0 Sync Errors: 0 Total Data Errors: 0
|
On The Fly Copying Simulation | Copying at 1 X
OK Copying at 2 X OK Copying at 4 X OK Copying at 6 X OK Copying at 8 X OK Copying at 10 X too slow Copying at 12 X too slow Copying at 16 X too slow |
Copying at 1 X
OK Copying at 2 X OK Copying at 4 X OK Copying at 6 X too slow Copying at 8 X too slow Copying at 10 X too slow Copying at 12 X too slow Copying at 16 X too slow |
Copying at 1 X
OK Copying at 2 X OK Copying at 4 X OK Copying at 6 X OK Copying at 8 X OK Copying at 10 X OK Copying at 12 X OK Copying at 16 X OK |
CD Text | Drive is capable of reading CD Text information | ||
Subchannel Data | Test 1
Track (01): 01 Relative position (01:05.00): 01:05.00 Absolute position (01:07.00): 01:07.00 Index (5): 5 Test 2 Track (17): 17 Relative position (01:33.00): 01:33.00 Absolute position (33:35.00): 33:35.00 Index (1): 1 Test 3 Track (36): 36 Relative position (00:00.00): 00:00.00 Absolute position (70:02.00): 70:02.00 Index (1): 1 |
Drive cannot read Subchannel Data directly | |
Leadin | Drive cannot read data from the Leadin | ||
Leadout | Drive cannot read data from the Leadout |
The detailed information on the tested parameters is given in the help file to the CDSpeed99 test program. If you don't want to download the utility, then here you can find the HTMl help file.
The results of the Ricoh and HP are almost identical: they have high-speed characteristics and none supports reading from LeadIn or LeadOut.
CD-R | Philips Silver Premium 16x (TY) | Mirex 650 MBytes | Rostok 780 MBytes |
Ricoh MP5120A | 77:03.26 | 77:21.34 | 93:23.62 |
HP dvd100i | 77:02.50 | 77:22.35 | 93:17.26 |
TEAC CD-W524E | 77:03.37 | 77:23.49 | 89:47.04 |
Mitsumi CR-4809TE | 77:03.58 | 77:24.12 | 92:43.28 |
Yamaha CRW3200E-VK | 77:03.26 | 77:21.26 | 91:33.64 |
The DVD+RW drives use the undocumented area of discs quite effectively, especially in case of 90-min discs.
Ricoh MP5120A |
HP dvd100i |
The Ricoh does it best of all (although it failed to continue reading after a hard-to-read part). The first obstacle made the HP lower its speed to the minimal one, and the drive kept it until the end of the disc without any attempts to increase it.
Today it's still hard to say which standard - DVD+RW or DVD-RW - will dominate. Both have advatages and disadvantages.
The DVD+RW Alliance has the strongest vendors on the market, but surprisingly there are no any promotional actions for this standard. Probably, the vendors haven't yet agreed on it. It's also possible that they are going to start active campaigns only when the second generation of the DVD+RW devices is released. Then it means that the today's DVD+RW are just trial. Besides, remember that there are no DVD-R discs - the problem which is lacking in case of the DVD-RW standard. Although they are already announced and future DVD+RW devices are going to support them, it's not clear whether today's DVD+RW drives will be able to record them.
Yamaha is doing big deals on the CD-RW market and carries flabby activity in the DVD+RW sphere.
Besides, it should be noted that DVD+RW media are not widely available. Of course, it's not beneficial for resellers to heap up their stores with DVD+RW discs. But it's also inconvenient for a user with a $500 device to spend much time looking for the media... Besides, I don't see much enthusiasm from Ritek, CMC and other Taiwanese media manufacturers.
On the other hand, DVD+R will reportedly be cheaper than DVD-R, and DVD+RW drives will quickly go down in price. And the second generation of DVD+RW drives should bring in the new turn of development of the data storage technology.
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