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IDE CD-RW Drives Roundup (Part XI)

October 31, 2001



12x Models

Although many CD-RW manufacturers are phasing out production of 12X recorders these devices are quite popular thanks to a good price/functions ratio. It is interesting that there are a lot of users who prefer low-speed recorders at a moderate price. They are mostly the people who deal in recording of audio discs and who are sure that, for example, at 2X recording speed the quality of a sound is better than at 4x.

With this in mind we decided to carry out comparison tests of 12x CD-RW drives which haven't been examined before. Below are links to the drives where you can find out their functionality and accessories.

NEC NR-7700

ASUSTeK CRW-1210R

Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032

MSI MS-8312

TDK VorteX 121032

Combo-drives, which combine DVD-ROM and CD-RW functions, are not of less interest. The most popular models on our market are solutions from Ricoh and Samsung. HP has also debuted in this sphere. The HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900 is a 12x recorder (12/10/32) and an 8x DVD-ROM drive. (Hence the speed formula: 12/10/32/8 or 12/10/32+8.) Its DVD functions will be considered separately.

HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900

Test results

Apart from the CD-ROM Teac 540E, for the performance estimation in reading operations we chose the TEAC CD-W512EB.

CDWinBench 99 CD-ROM Transfer Rate

Almost all CD-RW drives perform equally. It is only the NEC and HP which go ahead, and the MSI which falls a bit behind.

The picture is the same, though the advantage of the HP 9900i has become lower.

CPU utilization in CD-ROM Transfer Rate tests:

Both leaders are again ahead. The golden mean is the TEAC CD-W512EB which outscores the CD-ROM TEAC.

CDWinBench 99 CD-ROM Access Time

The HP 9900i outdoes even the CD-ROM TEAC and is only a bit behind the leader TEAC CD-W512EB. The Memorex and MSI are the last to reach the finish. The NEC - a former leader - takes a middle place.

CDWinBench 99 CPU Utilization

In general, the modern 32x drives are loading equally the CPU.

As an intermediate resume I'd like to stress that in the CDWinbench 99 test the NEC and HP have shown an excellent efficiency. The W512EB has average results. The Memorex is, as a rule, in the end.

CD recording time

Recording of CD-R Sony CDQ-74N1 (cyanine, 16x rated speed)
12X recording speed

CD-RW drive Time (min.)
NEC NR-7700
7.49
ASUSTeK CRW-1210R
7.50
Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032
7.37
TDK VorteX
7.41
HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i
7.42
MSI MS-8312
7.54

The Memorex recorder is the fastest in writing the Sony's discs. It is followed by the TDK VorteX and HP 9900i. But the spread in time is not huge.

Recording of the CD-R Mirex (phthalocyanine, 12x rated speed),
12X

CD-RW drive Time (min.)
NEC NR-7700
7.46
ASUSTeK CRW-1210R
7.41
Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032
7.38
TDK VorteX
7.40
HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i
7.40
MSI MS-8312
7.58

The situation is similar: the Memorex thrives again.

Recording of the "noname" CD-R disc (cyanine, the rated record speed is unknown), 4X

CD-RW drive Time (min.)
NEC NR-7700
20.35
ASUSTeK CRW-1210R
20.21
Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032
20.09
TDK VorteX
20.19
HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i
20.21
MSI MS-8312
20.36

It is hard to explain why the NEC falls behind the Ricoh's group. Nevertheless, the NR-7700 and MS-8312 are the slowest in recording of the cyanine CD-R discs of low quality.

Time spent for full formatting of a CD-RW disc in UDF format

Philips CD-RW 4x

CD-RW drive Time (min.)
NEC NR-7700
25.26
ASUSTeK CRW-1210R
26.01
Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032
30.33
TDK VorteX
24.44
HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i
24.21
MSI MS-8312
26.10

Ricoh CD-RW 10x

CD-RW drive Time (min.)
NEC NR-7700
13.17
ASUSTeK CRW-1210R
12.16
Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032
17.40
TDK VorteX
12.25
HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i
12.58
MSI MS-8312
20.34

Unfortunately, at a high speed of CD-R recording the Memorex performs quite bad in formatting CD-RW discs. The ASUS unexpectedly comes forward in formatting 10x CD-RW Ricoh disc. Having shown good results in recording of the CD-RW (4x), the MSI falls far behind the rest in working with the high-speed CD-RW media. But you should take into account that the MS-8312 can rewrite discs only at 8x.

Recording of a CD-RW disc (UDF)

Philips CD-RW 4x

CD-RW drive Time (min.)
NEC NR-7700
18.48
ASUSTeK CRW-1210R
18.18
Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032
20.10
TDK VorteX
18.20
HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i
18.50
MSI MS-8312
18.20

CD-RW Ricoh 10x

CD-RW drive Time (min.)
NEC NR-7700
8.44
ASUSTeK CRW-1210R
7.58
Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032
10.25
TDK VorteX
8.12
HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i
8.06
MSI MS-8312
9.22

The TwelveMAXX has unexpectedly yielded to the 8x MSI... The ASUSTeK scores brilliant results in working with this disc.

BLER factor of recorded CD-R discs

CD-R disc, recording speed Mirex, 12x Sony, 12x "noname", 4x
NEC NR-7700 47 1115 400480
ASUSTeK CRW-1210R 48 1215 400470
Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032 59 4567 700900
TDK VorteX 36 1014 380450
HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i 25 1116 520610
MSI MS-8312 1728 6178 620880

(for these tests we used a device described in the fifth part of our review)

Well, the TDK shows the excellent quality of recording of any type of media. The HP is very close to it as it recorded the phthalocyanine Mirex disc best of all. It is clear that the Memorex TwelveMAXX doesn't like cheap cyanine discs. The MSI's results are very close to those of the Acer CRW 1208A, but they look quite pale as compared with the others.

We are often asked on quality and performance of the NR-7700 and a CD-RW drive based on the Lite-On. That is why we decided to conduct detailed tests exactly on these drives (NEC and Memorex).

NEC NR-7700

Mirex, 12x

 

"noname", 4x

Sony CDQ-74N1, 12x

Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032

Mirex, 12x

"noname", 4x

Sony CDQ-74N1, 12x

The Memorex doesn't excel here. The quality of recording of the "noname" discs is awful. On the contrary, the NEC writes all types of discs quite good.

Nero CDSpeed

Graph of reading of the CD-R Sony CDQ-74N1 (12x writing speed)

NEC NR-7700

ASUSTeK CRW-1210R

Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032

TDK VorteX

HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i

MSI MS-8312

Graph of reading of the CD-R Mirex (12x writing speed)

NEC NR-7700

ASUSTeK CRW-1210R

Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032

TDK VorteX

HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i

MSI MS-8312

Graph of reading of the CD-R "noname" (4x writing speed)

NEC NR-7700

ASUSTeK CRW-1210R

Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032

TDK VorteX

HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i

MSI MS-8312

All drives read all types of media excellently, except the HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i whose graph is quite unstable. When we recorded a disc once more and tested it the figure was different:

It is obvious that these results are not satisfactory. That is why we carried out further tests with the first CD-R disc.

Test results of the recorded CD-R Sony CDQ-74N1 (12X)

  NEC
NR-7700
ASUSTeK CRW-1210R Memorex TwelveMAXX TDK VorteX HP 9900i MSI
MS-8312
Average 26.04x 24.74x 24.77x 24.76x 25.07x 24.81x
Random Seek 101 ms 102 ms 117 ms 95 ms 92 ms 81 ms
SpinUp Time 3.88 sec 2.60 sec 1.63 sec 2.59 sec 2.69 sec 4.41 sec
SpinDown Time 4.10 sec 3.91 sec 4.72 sec 3.34 sec 2.56 sec 1.25 sec
Disc Eject Time 1.96 sec 1.53 sec 1.47 sec 1.59 sec 2.07 sec 1.18 sec
Disc Load Time 9.68 sec 9.72 sec 2.95 sec 9.01 sec 10.90 sec 1.22 sec
Disc Recognition Time 0.04 sec 0.01 sec 9.24 sec 0.02 sec 0.01 sec 6.01 sec

Test results of the recorded CD-R Mirex (12X)

  NEC
NR-7700
ASUSTeK CRW-1210R Memorex TwelveMAXX TDK VorteX HP 9900i MSI
MS-8312
Average 24.87x 23.59x 23.62x 24.77x 24.71x 23.66x
Random Seek 99 ms 96 ms 125 ms 94 ms 92 ms 78 ms
SpinUp Time 3.83 sec 2.59 sec 1.70 sec 2.59 sec 3.61 sec 4.18 sec
SpinDown Time 4.05 sec 3.69 sec 1.70 sec 3.36 sec 2.66 sec 1.33 sec
Disc Eject Time 1.97 sec 1.53 sec 1.41 sec 1.58 sec 2.54 sec 1.18 sec
Disc Load Time 9.73 sec 9.93 sec 3.23 sec 9.02 sec 11.82 sec 1.22 sec
Disc Recognition Time 0.04 sec 0.01 sec 9.98 sec 0.01 sec 0.01 sec 6.15 sec

CDSpeed test results of the recorded "noname" CD-Rs

  NEC
NR-7700
ASUSTeK CRW-1210R Memorex TwelveMAXX TDK VorteX HP 9900i MSI
MS-8312
Average 26.02x 24.72x 24.28x 24.29x 14.57x 24.33x
Random Seek 102 ms 104 ms 117 ms 104 ms 96 ms 83 ms
SpinUp Time 3.40 sec 2.57 sec 1.61 sec 2.36 sec 3.48 sec 1.30 sec
SpinDown Time 4.09 sec 3.74 sec 4.72 sec 3.26 sec 2.63 sec 1.20 sec
Disc Eject Time 1.97 sec 1.53 sec 1.37 sec 1.59 sec 2.63 sec 1.07 sec
Disc Load Time 9.72 sec 9.81 sec 2.90 sec 9.13 sec 10.52 sec 1.22 sec
Disc Recognition Time 0.05 sec 0.01 sec 14.90 sec 0.04 sec 0.01 sec 6.22 sec

The NEC and HP turned out to be the speediest. They also have good access time results. The disc recognition time is exceptional of all discs based on the Ricoh pickup, while the MSI and Memorex are falling behind here.

CDSpeed test results of the CD-RW discs recorded in UDF

  CD-RW UDF (4x) CD-RW UDF (10x) CD-RW ISO (4x)
NEC NR-7700 18.35x 17.48x 22.12x
ASUSTeK
CRW-1210R
19.20x 19.19x 22.02x
Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032 17.16x 17.10x 20.02x
TDK VorteX 17.88x 17.70x 22.06x
HP cd-writer
dvd combo 9900i
18.41x 18.02x 22.16x
MSI MS-8312 14.08x 14.12x 18.94x

As you can see, it is only the MS-8312 which is much worse than the others.

CD-ROM Drive Analyzer

The HP 9900i and Memorex TwelveMAXX were tested with the earlier version of the CD Drive Analyzer (2.2.1) under the Windows 98 SE.

Graph of reading of the recorded CD-R Sony CDQ-74N1 (12X)

NEC NR-7700 (Windows 98)

NEC NR-7700 (Windows 2000)

ASUSTeK CRW-1210R (Windows 98)

ASUSTeK CRW-1210R (Windows 2000)

Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032 (Windows 98)

TDK VorteX (Windows 98)

TDK VorteX (Windows 2000)

HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i (Windows 98)

MSI MS-8312 (Windows 98)

MSI MS-8312 (Windows 2000)

Graph of reading of the recorded CD-R Mirex (12X)

NEC NR-7700 (Windows 98)

NEC NR-7700 (Windows 2000)

ASUSTeK CRW-1210R (Windows 98)

ASUSTeK CRW-1210R (Windows 2000)

Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032 (Windows 98)

TDK VorteX (Windows 98)

TDK VorteX (Windows 2000)

HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i (Windows 98)

MSI MS-8312 (Windows 98)

MSI MS-8312 (Windows 2000)

Graph of reading of the recorded "noname" CD-R (4X)

NEC NR-7700 (Windows 98)

NEC NR-7700 (Windows 2000)

ASUSTeK CRW-1210R (Windows 98)

ASUSTeK CRW-1210R (Windows 2000)

Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032 (Windows 98)

TDK VorteX (Windows 98)

TDK VorteX (Windows 2000)

HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i (Windows 98)

MSI MS-8312 (Windows 98)

MSI MS-8312 (Windows 2000)

The best graph at a high speed is shown by the MSI (Windows 98). All Ricoh based drives, except the NEC, demonstrate a saw when operating under the Win98.

Sound track extraction from audio CDs (CDDAE 99)

NEC NR-7700

  Piano Favorites Acoustic Planet vol.2 Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits"
Average extraction speed 14.2X 14.7X 20.0X
Total errors 3.22% 9.20% 0.00%

ASUSTeK CRW-1210R

  Piano Favorites Acoustic Planet vol.2 Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits"
Average extraction speed 12.8X 10.3X 22.8X
Total errors 7.78% 5.64% 0.00%

Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032

  Piano Favorites Acoustic Planet vol.2 Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits"
Average extraction speed 8.3X 9.6X 11.5X
Total errors 0.03% 3.18% 0.00%

TDK VorteX

  Piano Favorites Acoustic Planet vol.2 Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits"
Average extraction speed 18.6x 20.2X 22.8X
Total errors 2.34% 5.02% 0.00%

HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i

  Piano Favorites Acoustic Planet vol.2 Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits"
Average extraction speed 16.9x 8.3X 22.2X
Total errors 1.84% 4.12% 0.00%

MSI MS-8312

  Piano Favorites Acoustic Planet vol.2 Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits"
Average extraction speed 10.2x 10.2X 14.4X
Total errors 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%

The MSI is obviously the best in correct data extraction. The TDK performs also good. First the HP's results looked promising as well, but a high percentage of errors at a moderate speed worsened the situation. The Memorex doesn't make many errors in grabbing, but we couldn't get more than 11.5X.

Sound track extraction from audio CDs (EAC 0.9 prebeta 11)

NEC NR-7700

  Piano Favorites Acoustic Planet vol.2 Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits"
Average extraction speed 15.8X 10.2X 15.1X

ASUSTeK CRW-1210R

  Piano Favorites Acoustic Planet vol.2 Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits"
Average extraction speed 14.4X 10.4X 22.7X

Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032

  Piano Favorites Acoustic Planet vol.2 Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits"
Average extraction speed 6.4X 8.8X 10.9X

TDK VorteX

  Piano Favorites Acoustic Planet vol.2 Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits"
Average extraction speed 14.0X 10.6X 21.5X

HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i

  Piano Favorites Acoustic Planet vol.2 Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits"
Average extraction speed 17.0X 8.7X 22.2X

MSI MS-8312

  Piano Favorites Acoustic Planet vol.2 Bloodhound Gang "Greatest Hits"
Average extraction speed 8.0X 8.1X 13.9X

The EAC results confirmed an excellent operation of the TDK, ASUS, NEC and HP drives in extracting audio data. The Memorex and MSI seem to be worse extractors.

Advanced DAE Test

CD-RW drive NEC NR-7700 ASUSTeK
CRW-1210R
Memorex TwelveMAXX TDK VorteX HP 9900i MSI MS-8312
Offset 2620 bytes
(655 samples)
268 bytes
(67 samples)
2632 bytes
(658 samples)
268 bytes
(67 samples)
2712 bytes
(678 samples)
2648 bytes
(662 samples)
Sequential Read Test Average Speed: 21.03X
Data Errors: 0
Sync Errors: 0
Average Speed: 22.55X
Data Errors: 0
Sync Errors: 0
Average Speed: 11.48X
Data Errors: 0
Sync Errors: 0
Average Speed: 22.56X
Data Errors: 0
Sync Errors: 0
Average Speed: 23.41X
Data Errors: 0
Sync Errors: 0
Average Speed: 7.51X
Data Errors: 0
Sync Errors: 0
Harmonica Read Test Average Access Time: 120 ms
Data Errors: 0
Sync Errors: 0
Total Data Errors: 0
Total Sync Errors: 0
Quality Score: 100.0
Average Access Time: 154 ms
Data Errors: 0
Sync Errors: 0
Total Data Errors: 0
Total Sync Errors: 0
Quality Score: 100.0
Average Access Time: 202 ms
Data Errors: 0
Sync Errors: 0
Total Data Errors: 0
Total Sync Errors: 0
Quality Score: 100.0
Average Access Time: 143 ms
Data Errors: 0
Sync Errors: 0
Total Data Errors: 0
Total Sync Errors: 0
Quality Score: 100.0
Average Access Time: 126 ms
Data Errors: 0
Sync Errors: 0
Total Data Errors: 0
Total Sync Errors: 0
Quality Score: 100.0
Average Access Time: 405 ms
Data Errors: 0
Sync Errors: 0
Total Data Errors: 0
Total Sync Errors: 0
Quality Score: 100.0
On The Fly Copying Simulation Copying at 1 X
OK
Copying at 2 X
OK
Copying at 4 X
OK
Copying at 6 X
OK
Copying at 8 X
OK
Copying at 10 X
OK
Copying at 12 X
OK
Copying at 16 X
too slow
Copying at 1 X
OK
Copying at 2 X
OK
Copying at 4 X
OK
Copying at 6 X
OK
Copying at 8 X
OK
Copying at 10 X
too slow
Copying at 12 X
too slow
Copying at 16 X
too slow
Copying at 1 X
OK
Copying at 2 X
OK
Copying at 4 X
OK
Copying at 6 X
OK
Copying at 8 X
OK
Copying at 10 X
OK
Copying at 12 X
too slow
Copying at 16 X
too slow
Copying at 1 X
OK
Copying at 2 X
OK
Copying at 4 X
OK
Copying at 6 X
OK
Copying at 8 X
OK
Copying at 10 X
too slow
Copying at 12 X
too slow
Copying at 16 X
too slow
Copying at 1 X
OK
Copying at 2 X
OK
Copying at 4 X
OK
Copying at 6 X
OK
Copying at 8 X
OK
Copying at 10 X
OK
Copying at 12 X
OK
Copying at 16 X
too slow
Copying at 1 X
OK
Copying at 2 X
OK
Copying at 4 X
OK
Copying at 6 X
OK
Copying at 8 X
too slow
Copying at 10 X
too slow
Copying at 12 X
too slow
Copying at 16 X
too slow
CD Text Drive is capable of reading CD Text information
Subchannel Data Test 1
Track (01): 01
Relative position (01:05.00): 01:05.00
Absolute position (01:07.00): 01:07.00
Index (5): 5
Test 2
Track (17): 17
Relative position (01:33.00): 01:33.00
Absolute position (33:35.00): 33:35.00
Index (1): 1
Test 3
Track (36): 36
Relative position (00:00.00): 00:00.00
Absolute position (70:02.00): 70:02.00
Index (1): 1
Drive cannot
read Subchannel
Data directly
Leadin Drive cannot read data from the Leadin Drive can read
max. 1 sectors
(-00:00.01)
from the Leadin
Leadout Drive cannot read data from the Leadout Drive can read
max. 6750 sectors
(01:30.00)
from the Leadin

The detailed information on the tested parameters is given in the help file to the CDSpeed99 test program.

The best results are again achieved by the TDK, HP and ASUS. The NEC is just nudged out. Although the MSI is not able to read subchannel data, it excellently works with data in LeadIn and LeadOut. According to the Advanced DAE Test, all drives work decently with CD-Text information on an audio CD.

Overburn

CD-R Philips Silver Premium 16x (TY) Mirex 650 MBytes Rostok 780 MBytes
NEC NR-7700 n/a n/a n/a
ASUSTeK CRW-1210R 77:06.01 77:24.55 93:52.48
Memorex TwelveMAXX 77:04.15 77:15.53 93:50.20
TDK VorteX 77:05.58 77:23.41 93:52.46
HP 9900i 77:05.38 77:23.16 n/a
MSI MS-8312 77:05.35 77:24.14 n/a

The best in overburning is the ASUS which is followed by the VorteX. The NEC is not able to fulfill overburning.

Reading of a damaged CD

NEC NR-7700 (Windows 98)

ASUSTeK CRW-1210R (Windows 98)

ASUSTeK CRW-1210R (Windows 2000)

Memorex TwelveMAXX 1032 (Windows 98)

TDK VorteX (Windows 98)

TDK VorteX (Windows 2000)

HP cd-writer dvd combo 9900i (Windows 98)

MSI MS-8312 (Windows 98)

MSI MS-8312 (Windows 2000)

The TDK is the best in this test: it lowered its speed in the damaged part and then raised it again. Unfortunately, we couldn't make a screenshot of how the NEC NR-7700 read a damaged disc under the Windows 2000 as the system hung when the drive discovered an error.

Conclusion and summary

12x models are now quite popular and they will continue to be such if it is not the race of the manufacturers. Unfortunately, they forget that not everybody needs a 20x or 24X model, and they don't want to have a wide line of drives (from entry-level to High-End) just because it is unprofitable.

But if you want exactly a 12x model and the bestseller TEAC CD-W512EB doesn't suit you for some reason, then take a Ricoh based drive. For example, the NEC (though in this case you must be an expert in hardware and ready for experiments with software). The ASUSTeK CRW 1210R is also a magnificent choice but it costs a fortune. TDK offers you a budget solution with an attractive price/quality ratio. Besides, its Retail package has everything you need for an immediate burning of discs. The Memorex is a compromise solution as far as quality, price and functions are concerned. But the MS-8312 belongs to the category of lovers of a particular trade mark. There is nothing that would attract you much, except maybe an operation with data in LeadIn and LeadOut.

The HP drive has proved that it has promising prospects. This model will be a good choice for those who don't want to take all possible 5.25" bays in their cases and who need to work with CD-R/RW and DVD media.

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